Pharmacy Innovators Podcast
At the Pharmacy Innovators Podcast, we talk with innovative people who are going “off script,” finding new and better ways to optimize pharmacy for hospitals and health systems. Each episode provides timely and useful insights into how to transform healthcare through pharmacy.
Episodes

Jul 16, 2025
Jul 16, 2025
32 min
In this episode of Pharmacy Innovators, host Jim Jorgenson sits down with longtime friend and colleague Dr. Dawn Moore, Vice President of Pharmacy at Community Health Network in Indiana. With a career grounded in both strategy and service, Dawn shares her journey through health system leadership, her approach to ambulatory pharmacy growth, and the ways she's navigated competitive pressures in specialty and infusion care.
The conversation dives into how Community Health Network is addressing system-wide priorities, the importance of partnering strategically in pharmacy services, and how strong leadership can drive sustainable outcomes. Dawn also reflects on her run for the ASHP Board of Directors, her advocacy for women in pharmacy leadership, and how she balances a demanding career with raising a family.
Whether you're a pharmacy leader, health system executive, or aspiring professional, this episode is packed with practical insights, inspiration, and strategic takeaways.

Jun 18, 2025
Jun 18, 2025
43 min
In this episode of The Innovators Podcast, host Jim Jorgenson is joined by pharmacy revenue cycle experts Maxie Friemel and Tim Miller to explore the often underestimated, and increasingly critical, world of pharmacy finances. The conversation goes well beyond billing, diving into key issues such as prior authorizations, denials, biosimilar adoption, charge structures, and payer audits.
For hospital and health system leaders, the pharmacy revenue cycle presents both significant risk and opportunity. As specialty drug costs rise and payer scrutiny intensifies, understanding pharmacy’s role in financial performance is more important than ever. Maxie and Tim share practical insights to help leaders foster collaboration across pharmacy, finance, compliance, and IT, improve charge capture, and drive clean claims.
Packed with actionable strategies and big-picture thinking, this is a must-listen episode for any hospital leader focused on strengthening financial sustainability and operational alignment.

May 21, 2025
May 21, 2025
34 min
In this episode, host Jim Jorgenson sits down with returning guest Dr. Alex Varkey to discuss big changes—both personal and professional. Since his last appearance, Alex has completed his term as President of the American Pharmacists Association (APhA) and made a major career move, leaving a successful role in health-system leadership to join Visante. Alex shares what motivated his transition, what it’s been like stepping into the consulting world, and what lessons he’s bringing with him from his time at APhA. He also offers thoughtful advice for professionals considering a change and discusses the trends he believes will shape the next five years in pharmacy. From workforce dynamics to innovation in care delivery, this conversation is packed with leadership insight and forward-thinking perspectives for anyone invested in the future of pharmacy.

Apr 23, 2025
Apr 23, 2025
33 min
In this episode of the Pharmacy Innovators Podcast, host Jim Jorgenson is joined by two powerhouse voices in the 340B space: Kristin Fox Smith, Visante’s own 340B expert, and Ted Slafsky, Publisher & CEO of the 340B Report. Together, they dive into the latest political and regulatory shifts shaking the 340B landscape — from new Congressional leadership and pending legislation to the major reorganization of HHS and HRSA. The episode also explores Medicaid trends, judicial developments, contract pharmacy access, and the broader political forces shaping healthcare access for vulnerable populations. Whether you’re a healthcare leader, policymaker, or 340B stakeholder, this episode offers timely and valuable insights into the evolving landscape of the program. 340B Report website: https://340breport.com/ Subscribe now using coupon code VISANTE25

Mar 19, 2025
Mar 19, 2025
37 min
In this episode, host Jim Jorgenson talks with Dr. Brianne Bakken, PharmD, MHA, Associate Professor at The University of Iowa College of Nursing, about the National Pharmacist Workforce Study (NPWS) and its impact on pharmacy. They explore key findings on burnout, job satisfaction, and staffing shortages, as well as how AI, telepharmacy, and policy changes are reshaping the profession. Dr. Bakken discusses her award-winning 2019 paper on discrimination and harassment in pharmacy and offers a preview of the 2024 NPWS. She also highlights strategies like leadership training, inclusion initiatives, and resilience programs that are helping pharmacies adapt and thrive. Link to NPWS final reports: https://www.aacp.org/article/national-pharmacist-workforce-studies NPWS is funded by the Pharmacy Workforce Center

Feb 19, 2025
Feb 19, 2025
39 min
In this episode of the Pharmacy Innovators Podcast, Visante CEO Steve Rough and President Phil Brummond dive into Visante’s Top Ten Issues Facing Health System Pharmacy in 2025. This insightful discussion covers key topics such as alternative payment models, revenue cycle optimization, centralized medication access, and more—critical areas shaping the future of pharmacy practice. Join them as they explore how to advocate for essential resources, the expanding role of pharmacy services in health system strategy, and major healthcare marketplace changes that could impact your organization. Don’t miss this episode for expert insights and strategies to enhance financial and operational performance in 2025 and beyond!

Jan 18, 2025
Jan 18, 2025
22 min
In this episode, we address audience-submitted questions about the 340B Program with Kristin Fox Smith and Sean Hall, two leading experts from Visante. Topics range from potential legislative changes and manufacturer rebate models to operational challenges and future program expectations. Whether you’re a healthcare professional or simply curious about the 340B Program, this episode offers valuable insights into the evolving landscape of this critical initiative.

Dec 18, 2024
Dec 18, 2024
34 min
In this episode, we’re joined by Dave Hager, Managing Director at Visante, and Lynn Thoma, Senior Director at Visante, as they share their key takeaways from the ASHP Midyear Conference. Dave and Lynn dive into the major themes shaping pharmacy practice, highlight perspectives that challenged or inspired them, and discuss how the conference content aligns with the current trends and challenges facing the industry. Don’t miss this insightful conversation as they break down the conference highlights and share their expert analysis!

Nov 20, 2024
Nov 20, 2024
30 min
In this episode, host Jim Jorgenson welcomes Dr. Jenna Swindler, Vice President of Pharmacy Services at McLeod Health System in South Carolina. Dr. Swindler shares her career journey and provides an overview of McLeod Health’s pharmacy operations. The conversation dives into the critical role of "systemness" in multi-hospital organizations, highlighting how McLeod defines and implements this concept, particularly in pharmacy practices. Dr. Swindler discusses McLeod’s comprehensive pharmacy strategy, its alignment with broader organizational goals, and its impact on patient outcomes and operational efficiency. She elaborates on fostering consistency across locations, collaborating with other departments, and ensuring medication access for underserved populations. The episode also explores how pharmacy services at McLeod support patients beyond dispensing medications, enhancing care from hospital admission to post-discharge. Tune in for insights on advancing pharmacy’s role in achieving health system excellence and improving patient care!

Oct 16, 2024
Oct 16, 2024
25 min
In this episode, we are thrilled to welcome Dr. Kendrea Jones, Director of Pharmacy at Arkansas Children’s Hospital, to explore the unique challenges and opportunities in pediatric pharmacy. Dr. Jones shares her career journey, insights into the specialized pharmacy services at Arkansas Children’s, and how the hospital is tackling workforce shortages, high-cost therapies, and drug shortages. We also dive into the development of a specialty pharmacy to serve rural populations, innovations in prior authorization processes, revenue cycle management, and Arkansas's leadership in pharmacy advocacy, particularly regarding PBMs and 340b protections. Don’t miss this engaging conversation with one of the leading voices in pediatric pharmacy!






